"I dont feel like I thought I would. Stores would have been stocked with them that week. Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders HLN True Crime 3.7 10.4K Ratings; Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. What does he mean that they think they have Game but they dont. I will say that the one thing that is certainly proven about Mr. X is that he is suspicious. New information about the murders of Delphi eighth graders Liberty German and Abigail Williams became public Monday, and police have a man in custody. ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. Exactly. Allen, 50, was charged on two counts of. A special needs woman and a toddler? Why not donate to the best Delphi sleuthing team of all by donating to me, leader of a group of 230+ sleuthers who have been working on the case for four years now? The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. The bad guy knew they would be at the bridge that day bc they told someone or the bad guy overheard conversation by way of being close to the family, being nearby as drop off and pick up plans were made. He does, as Carter warned, appear younger than he is. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Its holding something in its hand. Thats after he had been at the site for 18 hours after he first lost his keys from 6:30 PM 2/13 12:30 PM 2/14 and then another eight hours from 12:30 PM 2/14 to 8:30 PM on the same day for a total of 26 hours after losing his keys. Radio says his wife is due to be coming to bring him back his keys and please let her in when she comes. We also have it from two separate search party members independently that they were told to not tell anyone what they had seen. Carter added the probable cause affidavit remains sealed. Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? The river is roughly 40 miles from whereLibby and Abby were killed and around two miles from theKline family home. My thoughts as well. Multiple sources indicate that a man named Richard Allen was booked into the Carroll County Jail Friday in connection with the Delphi murder investigation. He boasts hed like to beat the guy up even if it means incarceration. One of those suspects was John Miller, convicted in 2018 for a 1988 murder of an 8-year-old girl. As per the transcript, Kline also allegedly searched "how long does DNA last" in the aftermath of the murders, in addition to Googling updates on the Delphi investigation and searching for information about other unsolved killings, including the murder of JonBentRamsey. Im almost 100% the Flora case is connected to the Delphi case. They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. omygosh what a shame! You see, another two victims together (if they suspect foul play?) As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. His complaint is typical of tens of millions of single men his age in the US today. To me, he seems very stupid and immature, and I guess I want to believe the BG is some highly intelligent criminal mastermind to do something so awful and then evade capture for so long. Travis Trexler, a cousin of alleged Snapchat catfish and child predator Kegan Kline, was arrested in Wabash County, Indiana, at the beginning of September on DUI charges, The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . Was it one person who discovered the girls? Allen's defense has not yet filed a rebuttal argument to the motion for a gag order, and Gull has not yet published an order on the motion. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. Greenos videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case. To have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior thats about to occur.. 0:04. "It could potentially have nothing to do with the girls at all, and that's the sickening thing about it all, that it gets all this talk, but it may have nothing to do with them, and then I get myself all upset over nothing. I can see it from a teenager or maybe a n emotionally stunted 20+ guy, but this is a middle aged man! Thx for the point about girls being abducted off trails and being boxed in on both sides in both cases. So how did you get the crime scene photo?? The agent also confirms the girls were followed by the suspect on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, and that there were no visible signs of a struggle or fight. I havent seen the tape but a friend saw it and she said he had a huge smirk on his face the whole time. Its like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a childs toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever. What do we do next. A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. Nice guy! I dont agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. Precisely how they were killed has never been revealed by police. Citizens? Could it be that subconsciously people remember not so much the trees but what was dangling from them as they tell what they saw? If yes, they can sort out the crime scene DNA, right? Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, was involved in a domestic incident in June. Am I expecting too much? When the the girls did not show up for their ride home, Libby's family became concerned and family members started a search that was joined by many in the Delphi community. We have no idea. Officials did not discuss the timeline of events or evidence that led to Allens arrest, saying only that a judge determined that there was probable cause. A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. Ive always said that I would be screaming on the rooftop. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Not unless they were in a relationship for 2+ years and he got a tattoo of her, which I find unlikely, as Libby would only have been about 13/14 back in 2015/2016. The two SPMs both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene. Allen's attorney, Bradley Rozzi, argued in favor of releasing the documents. Ive thought about that too, honestly. I'm wondering if the families were even told about what the scene itself disclosed, or given any details about the crime scene such as; how the girls' bodies were left at the crime scene. "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. Police have quizzed Kegan Kline over his correspondences with Libby German, a transcript leaked by Murder Sheet earlier this year revealed. If he isnt the BG, he has some macabre fascination with the murder. Just a thought. I have thought flora & Delphi are connected ever since I learned of the Flora Fire. What if he's full of s**t? Then they say they had planned to reopen it much earlier in the AM but that the fog on the 14th made it very difficult to see so they didnt restart the search party until 9 AM. State police have refused to disclose what they were searching for or may have found; however, it's believed the extensive operation is connected to Trexler's cousin, Kegan Kline. A rose will bloom, it then will fade. WISH-TV was the first to break the story connecting Kline to the Anthony Shots social media profile in Dec. 2021. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. RE Mr X and keys On the police radio a male is mentioned returning to the cemetery with his wife to collect his vehicle. Richard Allen arrested:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Just a guess. DELPHI, Ind. Think about it like this. And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? His trial is tentatively set to begin on March 20. He has the whole town on his friends list. "Weve still got, now weve got a big mountain ahead of us. Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. So does a youth, so does the fairest maid Romeo and Juliet (1968) . Its from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. Id assume the kind that is foggy? His name only got out recently with the Leaker leak. "We were called in on Wednesday to tell us they had detained somebody, so weve had a couple more days to process this," Becky Patty said. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . It's unusual, infrequent to seal those documents, McLeland said but he felt it was necessary because of the extra scrutiny tied to the killings. The probable cause affidavit and charging information were sealed by court order, McLeland said, to protect the ongoing investigation. Allen, who has entered a preliminary plea of not guilty, will appear in court on Jan. 13 for a pre-trial hearing. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. But definitely I dont know him.". Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. And were going to stay after it. Reach Ron Wilkins at rwilkins@jconline.com. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have, and almost the entire community rejects our findings even though they are correct. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. For more information, please see our Our profession will not allow us to speak on what we think, but to always speak about what we know. Because he seems to be quite the liar to me," she charged. The members of the search party who found them must still have visions and memories of that tragic day etched in their minds. Were not. "I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it," he told cops. I've always wondered about the specific search party that found the girls'. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. Sadly these murderers and chomos are a dime a dozen. The suspect was not someone the families knew, Mike Patty said. Initial searches of the area didn't turn up the girls and local law enforcement halted the search at dark, picking it up the following morning. An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. Delphi Murders Walkthrough via CrimeDoor The girls failed to meet Libby's father at the appointed time of 3:15 pm. On Feb. 25, 2017, officers with Indiana State Police, the Peru Police Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation executed a search warrant on Kline's home as part of that investigation,. I am looking on thoughts on this guy as well. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said the probable cause affidavit and charging information are sealed by the court. "And thats the case. ", The detective said: "Then why'd you search?". Richard Allens point is it will not., Who is Delphi suspect Richard Allen?Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'. And thats not even the start of the weirdness. By mid-morning, the downtown Delphi Fire Department became a makeshift command center for volunteers assisting in the search. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. He was released on September 8, court records show. This is one reason I dont think JBC is BG. Also who said this crime was over quickly? "Today is not a day to celebrate," Superintendent of the Indiana State Police Doug Carter said. I theorize that after release from prison he was itinerant and carried a gun for protection. The next day, Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found murdered allegedly by the unidentified man Libby. Anyone remember that letter and who that search coordinator was? According to court papers, Kline was temporarily moved from the custody of his local authorities and into the hands of ISP, the lead investigators in the Delphi murders, at around the same time the river search began. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. Kline is facing 30 child porn-related charges stemming from his alleged use of thefake social media account. Is this confirmed? McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . He certainly didnt sound suicidal in his retirement announcement from Monticello in Nov 2019. It was his first appearance in public since his Oct. 28 arrest and initial hearing. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, thats for sure. Were there dogs? He was pretty young and had a lot of children. Arrest made in Delphi case:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Speaking to The U.S. Sun last month, Libby's mom, Carrie German, said that should the search along the Wabash be related to her daughter's murder, she hopes Kline isn't leading cops on a "wild goose chase.". You disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected to what? Your email address will not be published. A 50-year-old suspect identified as Richard Allen has been arrested and booked into . However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. Those with pertinent information can email, abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or call 765-822-3535. The teens lived in the tiny town about 70 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Very suspicious. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Abby Williams and Libby German, both 13, were murdered. Thats also why Carter said, The killer, who may be in this room as we speak Because the guy who they think did it was indeed right there in that room as they were speaking! Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. Talk about the helpless, right? Kline replied: "I have no clue. Becky Patty said that Libby had met Mr. X a couple of times, but she didnt think Libby would recognize him. Yeah thats not our information. Can you show me? Because probably because they DNA tested me they obviously have DNA on that body, 'cause why else would they DNA test me. LE? After the Leaker leak came out, I guess things hotted up and he moved to his other property in Monticello maybe to get out of the heat for a while. Also re searchers, it was not Mr. X that found the bodies, it was actually Jake Johns. According to Leigh Kerr, the BG took locks of hair from the victims. Discovery: February 14, 2017 I keep seeing people say it was a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees. Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. He catfished them by pretending to be a cute 19 year old boy. If these claims of the crime scene condition and signatures left behind by the killer are false, then I have to wonder what on earth the police found so bizarre. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. I myself have short lower legs and a long thigh area, so I noticed this right away. 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