( Check the Stock Holders)Most people do not invest knowingly in products that have known to hurt people. But let us go back to the original point that Tom made and you have chose to ignore. You, the Agent will be rich, and the Client will be broke and working all his life and never retire. They hear from word of mouth. By the way why do they need to pay for something that is not needed? peice Depends. Since you said you offer these worthless products, does that mean you will sell what ever you can make a buck on? You were offered Primerica. The paper work for all this takes around 5 hours so that equates to $240 per hour which is 5 times the amount Im earning in my day-job. I am curious why do you have promote your business here. IT was hilarious how when the commissionaires and legislative branches saw what was happening, they threw the big insurance companies out. Some even offer a dial a guarantee period. When PFS is sold I would expect a name change. Primerica is one of the only company that gives you a chance to know everything the Big finance companies know, by government licensing in your name, with a payment of $99. What I think is brilliant with Primerica is that their goal is to help their customers use their existing income and shift things around freeing up extra cash to fund retirement and other savings goals. . My Agent decided not to do it any more, so I am contacted every 6 months by his direct upline. So nothing is guaranteed. I am curious were you lying now, or before? If you do nothing and just sit on your butt and not see clients then you dont get paid. Thats the problem, I did seek out infromation about he real world. Making money is not easy, but if you work at it, you can make excellent part time income, ($20 to $50 hour)and even better full time income, $100k. I dont know much about it myself, my father-in-law worked for them for quite a while, and had quite a bit of mine and my husbands money invested with them. But there is more than this one. I actually think, then respond. But then again, You are not here to talk just fight. How you feel about PFS is not really relevant when someone asks you if you think that they should or shouldnt do the business. Tom says: More compensation: This means one of two things, either the company is taking less, or the customer is paying more. And before you ask, I have relatives in California, that I visited in June. Like I tell all the people who contact me, dont take my word for anything. -. Regional Vice President. Example, Insurance companies giving you examples is not a good source. It is how many of the toner Pirates keep in business. Then you said: As for others in PFS. IN any sales, Price only matters in the absence of value. And I know your not against the middle man because you would not have a car or a house or anything else you probably own or wish to ever own. Oh by the way, this is about opportunity, not products. ___________________________________________________. 12. Just like PFS, I do not work for them as a business owner. Thats why I do a fact finder. For example, Primericas 35-year term policy is available only to buyers ages 45 and under. Our main mission is to talk to the households that are being untouched in america to become FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT. Its TermNow policy comes with a $300,000 maximum death benefit They are all transportation. I am curious what is the same since you have left? Hell call you a liar, question verifiable facts blah, blah He is not here to do anything but put a paper bag over his head and scream out the sky is polka dotted. My advise to all here seeking guidance. Primerica pays in 2 weeks, and the rest looks to see if the President will declare the attack as an act of war. What is in it for me? Now why is that a better consideration? I do this because I have a passion to really help people and when I get the mind set of commissions are more important that peoples futures, I then must leave the industry. Since it has a smell of rankness, I have a feeling that is why they do not do it. It keeps the lies and the slander down. Primerica specializes in term life insurance and other financial products sold through its full- and part-time representatives. (PFS agents correct me if im wrong). Just like your stripped down term, with stripped down service, and stripped down value, is not equal to Primerica. As I said before, in Primerica, every agent is under an RVP and the policies are scrubbed at the office level. If it increases then you are really not paying anything more. Convertible and guaranteed is what makes a policy a good term policy. I have covered this so many times it is getting to be a broken record. Well Let us look at your post and see how you are wronmg. Losing a leg is not bad. Guess whatyou have brokers (people who make money commissions off anyone else who works out of his office). They just dont have any value proposition that appeals to veteran agents. Their commission schedule is too low. Their oversight is too onerous. Th When my neighbor called me about this, he wouldnt tell me about it, just that he wanted to talk with me about something new he was doing. Well we revert to thinking people who say anything against the Primerica concepts or business model are exclusive whole life producers again. Has followed ethical decisions. Now you may have only been there a little while, and never saw anyone that has gotten in trouble but I have seen several agents get reprimands for playing a battle of words. Something I ahve found out, that most non-Primerica Agents steer you to a cash value policy and not to a term plus mutual fund, whihc is best for the client. Tom, here is where you and I differ. 1.Life Health and Disability License Anyone in sales, is usually captive. Um, hes not spot onhes one of those smart people i was talking about. Now, Michael, what has Primerica post the last three quarters, losses or gains? As for the book coach, read it again and see how art. I am curious why not comment on the value of the deposit? The other part of the question is, do you use your Errors and Ommissions Insurance Daily or Hourly? Through out some websites, that you say something that it does not. A pyramid scheme is based on recruiting with the intention of making money off of the entry fees. You are right. Dont put words in my mouth or twist my story. The motto of my church is Honor God. Then you will get refferals and you will be This grace in our lives is due to someone not looking at the most well-to-do families but targeting the solidly middle class. I can even bet you signed a clause but did not know about it. IF so, why are you afraid of Primerica? People are living longer and expected to have longer life spans. a) Your clients get access to superior products when YOU are independent. Do people ever wonder why recruiting is tied to advancemant? We get paid just like any other financial services company. Aside from those turn-offs, I like Primerica. Oh the ability to sell cheap term. Also since we are willing to work around their schedule, and come to them, would you not pay for service. That is when they know they are going to lose money on a product, sell it at LOSS, so they can get money somewhere else. You claimed that I was lying, by saying this. Most Jobs have optional DI. He found out that I was going in for some heart check up. Hee-Haw! I do know that you focus on price, and that is why you sell that way and you are comfortable. They also give you many other things, Like the ability to get out of debt faster. How can you say you are looking out for your clients wehn you sell fixed annuities and term that has the only option of converting to keep it? Well that opens up the door for other products to be offerd to the employees or the business owner. You are definitely playing by the attackers play book. There were a couple of turn-offs for me. Its not like they made an educated decision to join Primeirca. . But then again Micheal, or is it Thomas, will say something like our ROP term is lower than Primerica. 22 years with Primerica, plenty of money, plenty of freedom. No Get teh quote right if you are going to steal it from me: It goes to trips for teh winners, and not the whiners. Its about recruiting and getting people trained. They barely paid for the hospital bills. If by some chance you feel PFS is a stepping stone, do what you feel is best for you. Well all that thinking changed when I put in my resigination papers. Just like the mortgage broker that gets kicks backs legally from the bank, and does not tell their client about it, this is unethical. how much does a mcdonalds franchise cost? You cannot lose. 3. Again, whatever you can do in PFS, you can do better on the outside. 19. Assuming COVID-related deaths continue to decline, Primerica projects benefits and claims ratio to get back to its historical range between 58% and 59% later in 2021. Yes I do believe that. If a person buys a 100K face amount policy from company A or Primerica for the same duration and they die how much will company A pay compared to what Primerica will pay? It is your job to ask questions and listen, take notes and put the right product for your clients needs. To me their system is designed for the recruiter. How are we to know the turth if he cant even keep his word about not responding. I am not here to advertise any company. But remember what happened to Bears and Stearns. Why would an agent offer term insurance? What is the value of that leg? I used this one because I couldnt get a PFS quote with other situations. What does primerica sell? -. IF you think it is perfectly logical to charge for something in a policy, and then charge someone for using what they already paid for, you definitely need to hide the hoods and masks from your clients. You can get help from Primerica. What do you think whole life agents would have told him. Someone stated that PFS do not have to carry E & O insurance? You definitely talk a great talk but in reality you are a selfish person who is looking for his next victim. Aside from that, ARE YOU SERIOUS?? You sir give yourself too good of a pat on the back on that one thoughyou know its true dont even bother lol. But that is something you might not know about. Here is another fact, you do not tell me your true name. . You also said, same reason why I hire salespeople that have sold to different companies. And look at the companies they suggest. And an OPPORTUNITY to for others to make money on a part time basis.. Or do you think the Companies give money free to agents? FYI: I mentioned AIGs new 35-year level, guaranteed term (with higher ratings than PFS). If you would like to consider helping out yourself give Michael a call.. 9. Primerica just was not my cup of tea. Then they will spend their time trying to get you to change to cash value. I mean who underwrites the policies Michael? Almost 90% of what he tells folks to doWOW, PRIMERICA has been advising folks to do for 31 years!!!!) 2. They said since you bought from XYZ company, they could contact you since they are a sister/brother/Parent company of that company. they are the most wanted commodity, since they have no bad habits. Since most of the offices in Orange County are growing, you must be feeling the pinch. Back then it was his company and he could contract with any company he wanted to to offer the best products he could find. 11. You know, I had a Mercedes S500 for 9 monthsthat thing was in the shop all the time. , You are forgetting that the same tax considerations is on both policies. Hes entirely wrong. This proves a couple things: Its that old question again Where is your loyalty? (Correct me if im wrong)..Outside Primerica and writing agent can earn renewals. Most importantly, care levels are dictated by the amount of help a person needs to complete activities of daily living, or ADLs. The only people who thinks that Cash value is good, are those that sell it. It usually keeps the bed bugs off me and the family. Please state facts as I have, without knowing my carriers please find out who they are before calling them not good companies. The user should be at a different level and the data should be present at some other level. The Primerica Companies protect confidential information I dont like it and feel like it is a scam! My why became clouded. First, Life is not fair. - . You know what? District Leader. Well Any one can take a fact and make it say something it is not. Since this is only good for the rich, not the middle class, why are you asking this question? My only purpose is to expose to PFS agents that there are other options. just remembered that i would follow up and post after some appointments. Why would anyone believe that you look at ther fiduciary duty to the client? This is what I did when I was leaving and PFS, and I encourage all Primericans to do, with ALL products and the business opportunity. Plus it is tax free since you already paid the taxes with after tax dollars. The SAME Primerica you were in. Its not owned by an individual. She did 18 months later. Senior Rep. Division leader. If most of the middle class keep doing what they doing now then the whole North American continent will collapse in 20 to 30 years from now and it will make Russia look like a picnic. She worked with Prudential? It was fun to listen to the tape of the agent apologizing to the client for lying cheating and stealing from them. Do they advise which funds to choose? It costs more. It basically read Thank you for your time at PFS. Well since you need a basic education along with a detail one, may be you need to get out of this business? I know it is hard for you to do a professional job since you are so used to being cheap, but try. I am non-captive. PFSers reading this: arent you tired of being broke? that is his favorite line here. So even at starting position this is good paying opportunity from my point of view. At some other point someone seems to think that ROP is taxable Let me show you in the next couple of lines. I can answer you,,,COST, Well let me ask you this, do you know there are Guaranteed Universal life products that are designed to have low/no cash value. You dont know what you dont know. If you cant get your facts straight on simple things like what is covered when you join Priemrica, how do you expect anyone to trust what else you post. Most people are willing to pay for quality and service. I doubt it. Why dont you split the commissions? But Since it works with him, I think it will work for me. c) better options and riders Most of the time their full-time job does not allow them. If you continue to focus on price, go get your food at 99 cent stores. A person can hire some to do what they dont wish to do and earn from their production. Every time we ask him he says, Im just a client. They know better, they know theyll feel and live better if they just took care of their weight issue.but guess what. Well first if they beat your current set up (say the way you pay your debt, and through what bank etc) they can actually buy out that loan from whoever youre with, and transfer it to CitiBank or w/e. I am going to approach it as an opportunity to educate people first and then as an opportunity to sell something that will meet their financial needs. Any competent adviser will tell you not to use Insurance as an investment. Shameless Plug: Realistic Passive Income Without MLM? Or did your Up-line tell you not to read anything? I do not have to give my trainer my first 5 or 6 sales in order to learn the business. The policies last 5 to 7 years. If you decide to do it at PFS just keep Michaels contact information on file. I am not going to train you but among term policies what you have is not exactly They have had this mission for the last 30+ years. To protect you against an event. Maybe that is why Primerica they will not sell it? It is nice to look at but a waste of money. (Insurance, office, etc. As for the best products, only the fool chases after the next best thing. Is the company going to call you later to convert you to permanent insurance? YOU ARE THE SMARTEST AND MOST UNDERSTANDING PERSON ON THIS PLANET. And they have to be completely the same, otherwise it is not comparing apples to apples. Granted, we invested about 2 years before 9/11 and the big market downturn that accompanied it, but when we pulled the money, most of the other funds we looked at had a much better return, ie: not negative and those that were negative were not nearly as negative. This comment is so true: So keep getting people licensed and getting them trained on the basics. What are your commissions like on some of the other products that you offer? Stay aways from the clients you went out and got for us for a time of 2 years and send us back all brochures and and other documents oh yes thans for the recruits. It is something that it took to the masses, but it has been around before 1977. Hee-Haw! You bring up a very valid point about reviews There will always be bad ones and always will be good ones. Then they try to get those people to take out a loan or buy some investment thats supposed to help them clear up debt. That was an honor. There is even something in the works where the company actually will go public and sell shares like they did with A.L. Three and finally, you did not know the difference between a sales person and an adviser. Walmart recruits (hires) for employees that they control their income. Do you really think that companies create financial products without a real So its not as high and it will never be as high because our system works on the Agents becoming financially Independant by helping MANY families do the same, not getting paid BIG commissions on one or two clients and the rest of the time playing golf like most of the industry does. Exactly what does th issue with todays mortgage crisis have to do with someone who has a health situation and high health care cost? We make money recruiting and through products. b) longer guarantees The person in charge of doing the help was too booked up and was then going on vacation. I represent many different carriers. James did a very good job refuting toms silly claims. Having the cheapest product means you are selling something that lacks value. Look up Guaranteed Universal Life and the use of a shadow account. As for variable annuities, I am not sure, but I am sure that I would not give anyone a check for thousands of dollars if they did not have a big company name behind them. How about let say a KIA RIO? Legal Protection (Already explained several times, and I know that Michael still may not understand the point.) Lump sum, tax-free. I do not nor do I admit to selling products to clients that are not good for them. By the way even though we are less expensive than most great service and value oriented companies. I know from us, my husband invested about $5000 with them, and 6 years later was only about to recoup about $2000. Most sales are done because of a connections. Since your lack of knowledge is evident here, How are we to trust your memory. Yes you pay less, but it costs you in the end, like they are seeing now. 3. I guess you were absent on the days that Art Williams was speaking. They were the only financial company that allowed part-timer and recruiting. the only people who say differently are those that sell cash value in any form including ROP. Maybe you might want to proof read your post. (you Dave Ramsey nuts out thereguess what. For loans, the Representative commission is 0.312%. The biggest difference between making $100K in PFS vs. as an employeeyou are your own boss here and you call the shots. plan. If its a husband and wife situation where one can get coverage and the other cant can you guess what is going to happen? The P320 series is a family of pistols that encapsulates different sizes and designs, like the XCarry, the AXG, and of course, military variants. how much money are the teachers making for sharing their knowledge with you? IN my business we sign a non-compete clause. Annually Tom, you talk about Cancer & LTD. You stated. Broken record again, if you concerned about your pocket book more that doing the right thing you are a failure. I do not nor do I admit to selling products to clients that are not good for them. No since you say it is convertable and that makes it great. Only as a courtesy, I do not have to do this. This was there way to hedge their bets. ___________________________________________________, Tom says: You are right women live longer. 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